The update is that I went with the Vintage Sound 20 amp. Even at double the price of a new 65 DRRI I feel better with the hand wired version. In 2017 they changed from a 5 year transferrable to a 2 year non transferrable. Possibly a 66' HW Princeton Reverb or a 67' HW Super Reverb? I should add that another factor was Fender and their new warranty. It really is a great product from Fender and I hope this motivates them to do more in the future. I hope this helps anyone looking at buying this amp. I would still love to try a Vintage Sounds amp but I have never seen one in person. I have tried the Deltone and the Rambler at CME and they are great but a bit more expensive then the Fender. Compared to similar amps like a Louis Electric Deltone, Carr Rambler and a Vintage Sound 22SC I feel good about the purchase. The price on these new may seem high to some but I got a good deal from my Sweetwater rep and feel that this amp will last like the old ones did. I have not jumpered the channels or had the amp cranked.yet. Not sure if a tube change to some nice JJ's or Tung Sols would help but I will report back whenever I end up changing the tubes. Not a problem for me and I heard that this is a common problem because of the shared reverb/vibrato on both channels (like the 68' series). If I have the volume down (off) on the channel I am not currently using there is no issue. At idle it is very quiet and I only notice a hum issue when I am playing through either channel and the unused channel has the volume up as well. One of the complaints and a concern of mine was the hum/hiss from this amp. With multiple guitars or even just one I am discovering a ton of different and useable tones from this amp. My MJT 59' White Blonde with Dawgtown A5 pickups sounds great through the second input of the bright channel. For example my MJT 55' Esquire with a Duncan 55' Antiquity sounds awesome though the second input of the normal channel. You get two channels and four inputs which I have found that you have a lot of tonal flexibility. Both are controlled by the included reproduction foot switch. Instant CCR tone that has a nice rate of speed which I believe they tweaked to be more like a Princeton Reverb circuit. The vibrato (or tremolo) also works great. Just like an old deluxe that can go from subtle to surf and with with very little to no noise. The amp also comes with a nice heavier padded black cover. Each guitar has it's own characteristics that are more noticeable then other amps I have tried. I play a variety of MJT telecasters and they all sound very good. The more I play through it the more it softens up in a good way. It comes with the Jensen C12Q speaker and sounds great out of the box. The black covering is also a bit different, a tad bit thicker on the 64'. The amp is built well and is lighter then the 65 DRRI due to the solid pine cabinet. For me they just don't last and I don't wasn't to deal with shopping for a new amp every 3-4 years. All the Fender 65' and 68's sounded good (other then the 68' PR) but I was concerned with the reliability of Fender PCB amps. The TL Falcon Grande was nice but more on the tweed side then blackface. The Morgan was built well but was too compressed for me and the price seemed high for what you get. The 65 DRRI, 65 PRRI (12" tweed), 68' CDR, 68' Vibrolux, 68' CPR, Morgan PR12, Tone King Falcon Grande and the 64' CDR. So I returned the Z and tested out a lot of amps. It wasn't a bad tone, just not the one I wanted. I felt that it was designed more for a pedal board guitarist then a guitar straight in player like myself. It was a very nice amp and the build quality is what you would expect. Z so I bought a Z-Plus (7W-15W with reverb). I recently stopped by Sweetwater looking for a new amp. Just wanted to share my experience with this new amp.